Platon Alexiades Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Hello, Can anyone provide information on the auxiliary DORMIO (F.81) which rescued the survivors of the submarine PIETRO MICCA on 29 July 1943?I have not found any information on this vessel which I think was a small vessel, sometime described as "pilotina" sometime also referred as a tanker ("cisterna"). There was a merchant ship GIUSEPPE DORMIO (1007 GRT, 1904) but I think the DORMIO in question was a much smaller vessel. Thanks. Platon sandokan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco De Domenico Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 According to our unique database called "Ghiglino's List", a very comprehensive list of WWII merchant vessels requisitioned by the Regia Marina, the outcome of painstaking research work done by Marco, in comparison to which the old Dr. Jung's Liste simply pales, there were two F.81s. The first was ASTERIA, a cargo motor-vessel of 393 grt very briefly requisitioned from 1.6. to 1.7.1940, later sunk by German aircraft off Arbe island between 1. and 15.10.1943; the second was VINCENZO DORMIO, a 217 grt motor-vessel. VINCENZO DORMIO, according to AIDMEN's "Repertorio di Marina Mercantile", another invaluable database put together by the late Ilo Barbensi and the very much alive (and kicking) Giorgio Spazzapan, was the former CESARE, a coastal cargo vessel completed in August 1917 as MARY BIRCH by W.H. Warren at New Holland (UK), yard no. 127, original owner G.F. Birch & Sons, 217 (or 228) grt, 172 tdw and 108 nrt, a 180 ihp and 96 nhp diesel engine, sold in 1925 as CESARE first to L. Martini and then to L'Argonauta SA di Navigaz., both of Genova. In 1933 to Ferrando & Massone of Genova, and in 1939 as VINCENZO DORMIO to Ditta Giuseppe Dormio of Monopoli (Bari). Survived the war, was re-engined in 1951 with a 300 hp diesel, was sold in 1964 to an unknown (Greek?) owner as KALITICHI. sandokan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platon Alexiades Posted November 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Dear Francesco, I knew you would come through! Many thanks! Can one purchase AIDMEN's "Repertorio di Marina Mercantile"? All the best, Platon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corto Maltese Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) Hi Platon if the council's members agree I can scan all the "Repertorio" for you (but not in a day . ) Edited November 26, 2015 by Corto Maltese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platon Alexiades Posted November 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Hi Corto, Many thanks. Please let me know the cost if any. There is no hurry on my part. Best wishes, Platon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corto Maltese Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) Hi Corto, Many thanks. Please let me know the cost if any. There is no hurry on my part. Best wishes, Platon Naturally all for free but you must consider that the "Repertorio", also if it is a good source, includes mistakes and omissions. Edited November 26, 2015 by Corto Maltese sandokan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco Mattesini Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Dal libro di Corrado Capone "Siamo fieri di voi, p. 140 Sommergibile PIETRO MICCA Affondato il 29/7/1943, alle ore 06.05 circa, al largo di Santa Maria di Leuca. Silurato dal Smg. britannico "Trooper". Ha evitato con una pronta manovra il primo dei due siluri che gli sono stati lanciati contro ma, centrato a proravia dal secondo, va a fondo in pochi istanti. Si salvano solo 18 uomini sui 78 che comprendono l'equipaggio. I superstiti vengono raccolti dal "Bormio" che gli andava incontro per scortarlo in porto (il Comandante, T.V. Pasolo Scrobogna, dopo l'armistizio aderisce alla R.S.I. e viene destinato al comando di un nucleo della X Mas a Pola). Affondano col battello [segue l'elenco dei caduti]. Francesco M;attesini sandokan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco De Domenico Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Thanks, Nicola, for your generous offer. Nihil obstat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Platon Alexiades Posted November 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) Dear Corto, Francesco and Franco, Thank you all for your help. Franco: the quotation by Capone referring to "Bormio" repeats a spelling mistake made by the IV Grupsom in its report. I am attaching signals from Marina Gallipoli and Marina Taranto referring to "Dormio". Also I have not found any reference at all to a "Bormio" in other files. I hope this helps clearing things up. After Francesco suggested that the full name was Vincenzo Dormio, I have also found a reference to an auxiliary minesweeper Vincenzo Dormio (R.109)[i believe the numbers were sometime changed?] armed with only a single 8mm machine gun but without a radio. Many thanks again, Platon Edited November 27, 2015 by Platon Alexiades Corto Maltese, sandokan and Luiz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco De Domenico Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Well, yes, Platon, the numbers were subject to change with the changing of mission of the relevant vessels. By the way, my Ghiglino's List has a blank R 109, so you did just make a useful contribution to Marco's work .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napy Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Hello to everybody and thanks for mentioning the list, on the updated Ghiglino's list I have the VINCENZO DORMIO as R 109 until august 1940, then moved to F 81 to replace ASTERIA (393 GRT) cancelled from Auxiliary Ship Roll on july 1940. Best regards MG Corto Maltese 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aris Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) DORMIO was sold in 1964 to Greek owners Karanikolaou & Vambaris and was registered in Piraeus (No 2453) as KALI TYCHI (meaning Good Luck).There is a photo taken by Peter Boman in 1971 at http://digitaltmuseum.se/021015764997?query=kali%20tychi&pos=0#&gid=1&pid=1 She was later sold to Ath. Koutsogilas and under his own command she set sail on 25.7.75 from Volos to Heraklion with a cargo of iron. While leaving Pagasitikos gulf a leak became uncontrolled and the captain took her to the small port of Aghia Kyriaki in order to save her. However the efforts failed and she sunk next to the pier at a depth of 3-17 meters, where she remains.There are many videos and photos of the wreck int he web like at this page: http://kostasladas.blogspot.gr/2010/10/youtube-video-player.html Edited September 15, 2016 by Aris Napy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco De Domenico Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Thank you kindly, Aris, and a very hearty welcome to our forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidnik77 Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Do you have any more information for the Vincenzo Dormio, during it's ''Italian" service both in the merchant and Regia Marina? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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