Platon Alexiades Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Dear Franco, As I mentioned previously, some of my files are temporarily missing so I cannot verify all your comments but in general I am in complete accord with them. With my best wishes, Platon sandokan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco De Domenico Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Dear Platon, I sincerely hope the rehabilitation job of your books and files is going ahead without unforeseen hitches. All the best, Francesco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platon Alexiades Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Dear Francesco, Many thanks. The process will take a couple of months or more, I will try to keep my sanity until then! All the best, Platon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco Mattesini Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Grazie Platon, inoltre condivido quanto per i tuoi fails e i tuoi libri ti ha augurato Francesco. Franco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platon Alexiades Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Many thanks Franco for your good wishes. Platon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco De Domenico Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Fulvio Petronio, da Trieste, mi ha fatto appena notare un errore comparso nell'articolo del Bollettino sul NARVAL (di cui mi ero accorto ma troppo tardi, purtroppo). Alle pagine 188 e 189, il testo di Ruia e la didascalia della foto identificano il cacciatorpediniere britannico DIAMOND come se fosse un incrociatore.... faccio ammenda a nome dell'AIDMEN, un errata corrige comparirà sul prossimo Bollettino, insieme ad un altro sempre di Petronio (probabilmente il massimo esperto che ci sia in Italia in materia di identificazione di sommergibili) relativo ad una delle foto erroneamente attribuite ad un ex sommergibile classe R nel pezzo di Luciano Grazioli. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco Mattesini Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Mi ero accorto anch'io dell'errore: L'errreta corrige é necessaria. Franco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco Mattesini Posted February 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 C'é un altro errore a pagina 188, 3^ riga. Il DIAMOND non é un incrociatore ma un cacciatorpediniere. Franco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco De Domenico Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 La caccia all'errore non è caccia alle streghe, è un gioco da incoraggiare tra shiplovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platon Alexiades Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 I have received the Bollettino this week and would like to commend the quality and diversity of all the articles and congratulations to our President Francesco De Domenico and all concerned!My interest in Italian submarines was particularly rewarded by the articles on their construction by Gian Carlo Poddighe and on the "R" class submarines by Luciano Grazioli but all the articles were praiseworthy and I would not like to fail to mention Franco Mattesini's article on the end of the Malta's blockade. But to return to the very one by Stefano Rula on the French submarine NARVAL, I will only make a minor correction: There is no evidence that this submarine carried a cargo of limpets for Free French saboteurs in Tunisia. So the massive explosion in the bow was probably solely by the mine or perhaps a torpedo was also detonated in its tube. First contacts between Tunisia and Malta were initiated by the lawyer André Mounier who travelled in the fishing vessel PESCADOU from Tunisia to Malta in January 1941 that is after NARVAL was lost. The submarine HMS UTMOST was used on four occasions to pick up or land agents (Commandant Breuillac and Verdier) in Tunisia (28 February, 19 April, 27 April and 27 May 1941) and limpets were probably brought on 27 April or 27 May (or possibly on both occasions). They were used in sabotage attempts on the Italian ships ACHILLE, SIRIO and PROSERPINA but only ACHILLE was damaged. Mounier was killed in an air accident so the whole story is not very well known and SOE files concerning these operations were probably lost or destroyed at the end of the war. Platon Alexiades sandokan and Danilo Pellegrini 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandokan Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Interessantissima vicenda. Grazie a tutti voiCordialissimiTiberio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco Mattesini Posted March 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Platon é sempre tempestivo ed esaustivo. Complimenti Franco sandokan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco De Domenico Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Il contributo di Platon formerà oggetto di un addenda sul Bollettino 2016. sandokan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonino Cama Posted June 10, 2021 Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 Sono Cama Antonino, il nipote dell'ammiraglio Pasquale Giliberto, allora tenente di vascello e comandante della torpediniera Clio. Sono il figlio della sorella Giliberto Giovanna. Ho una serie di giornali dell'epoca, nei quali c'è la foto della torpediniera con la prua visibilmente accartocciata. Mio zio non ha raccontato balle. Il sommergibile è stato veramente colpito prima che si immergesse, e la enorme macchia di nafta che si formò attorno ne fu la prova tangibile dell'affondamento. Posso fornirvi tutte le foto dei giornali dell'epoca ed anche il conferimento della medaglia d'argento al valor militare. sandokan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platon Alexiades Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 On 6/10/2021 at 3:31 AM, Antonino Cama said: Sono Cama Antonino, il nipote dell'ammiraglio Pasquale Giliberto, allora tenente di vascello e comandante della torpediniera Clio. Sono il figlio della sorella Giliberto Giovanna. Ho una serie di giornali dell'epoca, nei quali c'è la foto della torpediniera con la prua visibilmente accartocciata. Mio zio non ha raccontato balle. Il sommergibile è stato veramente colpito prima che si immergesse, e la enorme macchia di nafta che si formò attorno ne fu la prova tangibile dell'affondamento. Posso fornirvi tutte le foto dei giornali dell'epoca ed anche il conferimento della medaglia d'argento al valor militare. Hello Antonino, I would be interested to see the photos you have and the newspapers extracts. I would also be interested in locating the Clio's report of this action. Neither Francesco Mattesini or I ever found it at the USMM. It is missing from the Clio's file. Unfortunately, as you may have surmised from the previous exchanges on this thread, Clio never sank Narval. The wreck of Narval was located by Micoperi in November 1957 near Kerkenah (Tunisia) and again visited by the French Navy in 1985 (I have been in contact with the Chief of Staff of the French Navy in the Mediterranean who conducted the search). The wreck was positively identified and was the victim of an Italian minefield. Narval was assigned a patrol area between Lampedusa and Kerkenah. She could never have been operating in the Tobruk area which was 600 miles away. The submarine attacked by Clio was HMS Rover, she was damaged but escaped. Best regards, Platon sandokan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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