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  1. Dear Francesco, Thank you for these details. Any chance of unearthing a more recent photo of this vessel? Number of victims? Some sources reports no survivors while others seem to infer that most of the crew survived. Best regards, Platon
  2. It appears that the wreck of this submarine was probably found. https://apnews.com/15a7061222add012d94cbc8dadfb112b?fbclid=IwAR3VUjeS1SB4iUVQssWz79AdbfEAd4VcQCBSi7DmQ_BuSDEtWgpzt4rUZC4 It seems that wreck discoveries are accelerating as boundaries of underwater exploration are pushed farther. Platon
  3. A French team has been exploring the wreck of the auxiliary Silvia Onorato (F.50, 207 GRT, 1895) sunk by HMS Safari off Corsica on 20.07.1943. There is a photo of her dated 1924 but they are looking for more recent photos and any information on this vessel and list of crew and victims. According to Lloyd her size was 140.5 x 21.3 x 11.9 feet (42.8 x 6.5 x 3.6 metres) and I know she was armed with one 76/40 gun and eight depth charges but little else. Many thanks, Platon
  4. Thank you Iskandar. It appears the wreck lost its bows, probably due to a torpedo from GREIF which finished her off. Best regards, Platon
  5. Dear Francesco, Indeed the design of the German "K" light cruisers was not successful and their operational life was very restricted with transporting troops to Norway perhaps the high point of their career. All the best, Platon
  6. The wreck of the German light cruiser KARLSRUHE was located. She had been sunk by the submarine HMS TRUANT (Lt. Cdr. C.H. Hutchinson, RN) on 9 April 1940, the same day Norway was invaded. Ten torpedoes had been fired but only one hit her stern and it was enough. https://www.statnett.no/en/about-statnett/news-and-press-releases/news-archive-2020/unique-discovery-on-the-seabed-wreck-of-sunken-wwii-warship-discovered-after-80-years An interesting find! Platon
  7. Hello, I have read most Italian submarine reports (all?) at the Ufficio Storico and do not remember one instance of a submarine using this Girosi device. Perhaps Franco Mattesini can confirm this? A curious idea though! Platon
  8. Thank you Marco for the info. Can anyone provide details of her life as GRS 251? I only have her at Brinsisi in March 1943. She may have been still there at the Armistice but I have no further information except for her being towed to the position off Barletta. Platon
  9. Hello Corto Maltese, It appears the wreck was that of the oil depot ship G.R.S. 251 (ex submarine Giovanni Bausan). Also referred as G.S.R.251 (perhaps a typo?). See the other posting. Many thanks, Platon
  10. Hi, The Barletta wreck previously reported to have been HMS Regent has been examined by Italian divers led by Fabio Bisciotti on Sunday 28th June. It has now been identified as the Italian submarine Giovanni Bausan which was converted as the oil depot G.R.S.251 and used as a target by the Allied Air Forces in June 1944. The divers were: Fabio Bisciotti Alessandro Aulicino Michele Favaron Stefania Bellesso Ruggero Nanula Pasquale Bailon Pietro Amoruso I expect they will soon publish some photos but the wreck is in a very poor shape. The wreck of HMS Regent is still to be found but the team is determined to look for it and hopefully they will succeed. All the best, Platon Alexiades
  11. Dear Francesco, Many thanks for these additional details which will be added in my database! All the best, Platon
  12. Dear Francesco, You are quite correct in citing this incident. This was the the torpedoing of the Spanish CAMPOMANES (6276 GRT, 1932) by the submarine USS BARB (SS-220) on 26 December 1942. She was on passage from Bilbao to Aruba but was not sunk and managed to reach Vigo. The incident was very embarrassing and was hushed up for many years (I seem to remember that in the 70s the identity of the culprit was still being discussed!). At the time, CAMPOMANES was outside Spanish territorial waters but also outside the "Sink on Sight" zone so the British Naval Attaché in Madrid was instructed to say that no British submarine was in the area (which was true but this was of course a half-truth!). It was hoped that the incident could be pinned on a German submarine. American submarines were judged too large to operate in the Mediterranean and their disappointing performance in the Atlantic led to their withdrawal (except for training in the Western Hemisphere). They had, of course, an excellent performance in the Pacific where they were more suitably employed and which shows that one has to have some patience toward submariners as they need a period to get adapted to their surroundings. A period which Doenitz did not seem ready to give to Italian submariners. He was not alone: as First Lord, Churchill was not satisfied with the performance of British submarines during the first months of the war and wanted a more aggressive submarine campaign. He had Rear-Admiral Watson removed and replaced by Max Horton in January 1940, with the result that three submarines were lost within a few days. Luckily, by the time of the Norwegian Campaign, British submarines were more accustomed in operating in enemy waters in the North Sea and delivered the most severe blows to German shipping than the RAF or the Royal Navy surface forces. My best wishes, Platon
  13. Caro Franco, I have always read with great interest your articles published in academia.edu and your books published at the Ufficio Storico and your article of submarine operations in the Western Hemisphere is equally excellent. Readers of these lines may also note the equally interesting works by my friend Eric Wiberg ("U-boat in the Bahamas", "U-boats off Bermuda" and "U-boats off New England"). I have been toying for sometime with the idea of publishing the histories of Italian submarines in WW2 on uboat.net but this will require quite a bit time an efforts. I am sure that Italian readers will quickly point out my many mistakes! Cordialmente, Platon
  14. Dear Francesco, Many thanks for your insightful comments with which I agree wholeheartedly. On the other hand, I do not know what the British thought about US submarines in the Atlantic Theatre where they had a lacklustre performance. They kept their opinion very discreetly to themselves! All the best, Platon

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